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Another death by contact cleaner
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falconfixer
2010-03-25 04:08:37 UTC
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When will the madness stop?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1975-Williams-SATIN-DOLL-PINBALL-MACHINE-FOR-PARTS_W0QQitemZ330417173592QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4cee65f458

Dave
mikeo
2010-03-25 04:30:10 UTC
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How disappointing. No pictures of the carnage.

Mike O.
Team-EM
Post by falconfixer
When will the madness stop?
http://cgi.ebay.com/1975-Williams-SATIN-DOLL-PINBALL-MACHINE-FOR-PART...
Dave
Sean Kavanagh
2010-03-25 11:20:34 UTC
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How disappointing.  No pictures of the carnage.
Mike O.
Team-EM
Post by falconfixer
When will the madness stop?
http://cgi.ebay.com/1975-Williams-SATIN-DOLL-PINBALL-MACHINE-FOR-PART...
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LOL I agree - no pics was a disappointmnt. I did like the line "NOT
GOOD EXTREMELY FLAMMABLE" with no puncuation and all caps. Gave me a
chuckle...

Sean
falconfixer
2010-03-25 11:37:23 UTC
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How disappointing.  No pictures of the carnage.
Mike O.
Team-EM
Post by falconfixer
When will the madness stop?
http://cgi.ebay.com/1975-Williams-SATIN-DOLL-PINBALL-MACHINE-FOR-PART...
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That's ghoulish Mike. You probably slow down at car accidents too. ;-)

Dave
rcranetx
2010-03-25 12:03:21 UTC
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What's the guy in the last picture holding? Looks like lighting
fluid.
Toolguy
2010-03-25 12:21:39 UTC
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I have not heard of this happening much myself.
ldnayman
2010-03-25 18:32:31 UTC
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Post by Toolguy
I have not heard of this happening much myself.
Me Neither, which is why I'd love to see pics of the damage.

One guy I bought a game from proudly presented me with a can of
contact cleaner as I was loading the game up. He was a nice old man, I
politely declined, but its a good thing he never decided to "service"
the game himself!
RonKZ650
2010-03-25 20:26:09 UTC
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Post by ldnayman
Post by Toolguy
I have not heard of this happening much myself.
Me Neither, which is why I'd love to see pics of the damage.
One guy I bought a game from proudly presented me with a can of
contact cleaner as I was loading the game up. He was a nice old man, I
politely declined, but its a good thing he never decided to "service"
the game himself!
The only part of contact cleaner that's flammable is the propellant
used and even flammable propellant like WD40 uses or used to use at
least is only flamable while it is being sprayed. Once it's sitting on
contacts it can't burn. Anyone can try it, just get a match and try to
light WD40 or any contact cleaner for that matter and it will not
burn. Of course if you spray WD40 directly into flame it will burn as
long as you spray, but not after that. So in this case here if true,
the only way for it to happen is to spray on arcing contacts directly
while power is applied.
ldnayman
2010-03-25 20:27:46 UTC
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Post by RonKZ650
So in this case here if true,
the only way for it to happen is to spray on arcing contacts directly
while power is applied.
You sure about that? What about if you spray onto the contacts, let it
sit for 5 minutes, and then fire it up?

I'd bet you wouldn't want to try that experiement. I think that's what
most people do when they use this stuff.
homebrood
2010-03-26 01:20:00 UTC
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Post by RonKZ650
Post by ldnayman
Post by Toolguy
I have not heard of this happening much myself.
Me Neither, which is why I'd love to see pics of the damage.
One guy I bought a game from proudly presented me with a can of
contact cleaner as I was loading the game up. He was a nice old man, I
politely declined, but its a good thing he never decided to "service"
the game himself!
The only part of contact cleaner that's flammable is the propellant
used and even flammable propellant like WD40 uses or used to use at
least is only flamable while it is being sprayed. Once it's sitting on
contacts it can't burn. Anyone can try it, just get a match and try to
light WD40 or any contact cleaner for that matter and it will not
burn. Of course if you spray WD40 directly into flame it will burn as
long as you spray, but not after that. So in this case here if true,
the only way for it to happen is to spray on arcing contacts directly
while power is applied.
That is wrong, if you let it dry it will not ignite but that can take
days with cloth insulated wiring in tight bundles.
Contact cleaner not the propelant is Highly Flamable!!!

Tom
P2K
2010-03-26 11:24:12 UTC
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Post by RonKZ650
The only part of contact cleaner that's flammable is the propellant
used and even flammable propellant like WD40 uses or used to use at
least is only flamable while it is being sprayed. Once it's sitting on
contacts it can't burn.
I know this isn't a discussion of WD-40, but:

Maybe true after all the solvents evaporate, but WD40 is a not contact
cleaner. It is a lubricant that could be used to displace moisture on
electrical devices in a pinch, but I would never use it as a contact
cleaner. You would have to clean the oil residue off after using it.
Look at the MSDS for WD40. Up to 25% petroleum based oil with a lot
of solvent carriers.

I read the description of the original WD-40 invention and it was
meant as a lubricant that could travel into very tight places to leave
a deposit of mineral oil behind after the solvents evaporate. The
solvents thinned the oil for the travel, evaporated, then left behind
oil.

Alan
c***@provide.net
2010-03-26 11:46:05 UTC
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Post by RonKZ650
Post by ldnayman
Post by Toolguy
I have not heard of this happening much myself.
Me Neither, which is why I'd love to see pics of the damage.
One guy I bought a game from proudly presented me with a can of
contact cleaner as I was loading the game up. He was a nice old man, I
politely declined, but its a good thing he never decided to "service"
the game himself!
The only part of contact cleaner that's flammable is the propellant
used and even flammable propellant like WD40 uses or used to use at
least is only flamable while it is being sprayed. Once it's sitting on
contacts it can't burn. Anyone can try it, just get a match and try to
light WD40 or any contact cleaner for that matter and it will not
burn. Of course if you spray WD40 directly into flame it will burn as
long as you spray, but not after that. So in this case here if true,
the only way for it to happen is to spray on arcing contacts directly
while power is applied.
I've service MANY games that have been
caught on fire by contact cleaner or WD40.
and YES the residuals ARE flammable.
I've know, i've seen it.

It's not like some idiot is there with a can
of WD40 or contact clean and a match.
The blue sparks set the game on
fire. Obviously it's the residuals that
caught on fire. Though i'm sure there's
some cases where people spray the
stuff directly on a moving score motor.
But that's not the typical situation.

The best story is where one guy
sprayed his game with contact cleaner,
put the playfield down, closed the coin
door. Then turned the game on and hit
the start button. The coin door blew open
with flames coming out, burning his crotch!
If you do a google search you can find
the story. it was recanted here on RGP.

pinball whore
2010-03-26 04:46:55 UTC
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Post by falconfixer
When will the madness stop?
http://cgi.ebay.com/1975-Williams-SATIN-DOLL-PINBALL-MACHINE-FOR-PART...
Dave
If you fart too close to a arching contact it will ingnite ! trust
me . If not please post pictures
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