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diana anderson
2022-08-03 21:08:25 UTC
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Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that even Ed Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and can be used
John Robertson
2022-08-03 22:17:53 UTC
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Post by diana anderson
Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that even Ed Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and can be used
Early 1990s as I recall seeing somewhere. It was started back when
Usenet was only available in universities and companies with networking
with universities.

Somewhere, floating around the 'interweb', is the story of
Rec.Games.pinball's (RGP) creation...

I only started posting here around 1994 or so via BBSes of the day.

John :-#)#
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(Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
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MOVED to #7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
(604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."
Kerry Imming
2022-08-03 22:22:41 UTC
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Post by diana anderson
Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that even Ed Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and can be used
According to the FAQ:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pinball/916391-pinball-hardware/faqs/23332

"Tom Yager created the rec.games.pinball USENET newsgroup in on 20
November 1990 for the discussion of pinball machines."

If I recall correctly, the FAQ used to be posted monthly.

- Kerry
Daina Pettit
2022-11-01 04:14:03 UTC
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Post by diana anderson
Post by diana anderson
Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea
founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that even Ed
Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and
can be used
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pinball/916391-pinball-hardware/faqs/23332
"Tom Yager created the rec.games.pinball USENET newsgroup in on 20
November 1990 for the discussion of pinball machines."
If I recall correctly, the FAQ used to be posted monthly.
- Kerry
The FAQ is still posted monthly with a few reminder posts inbetween.
--
Daina Pettit=***@xmission.com, voice: (801)277-6296, msg: (801)277-0888
Linux Consulting Salt Lake City, Utah http://www.MrPinball.com
Mr. Pinball Classified--More Pinball Ads than ANYWHERE, and they're FREE!
John Robertson
2022-11-01 18:08:44 UTC
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Post by Daina Pettit
Post by diana anderson
Post by diana anderson
Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea
founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that even Ed
Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and
can be used
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pinball/916391-pinball-hardware/faqs/23332
"Tom Yager created the rec.games.pinball USENET newsgroup in on 20
November 1990 for the discussion of pinball machines."
If I recall correctly, the FAQ used to be posted monthly.
- Kerry
The FAQ is still posted monthly with a few reminder posts inbetween.
Hi Daina,

I don't see it here on R.G.P. these days - didn't someone used to copy
it here?

Thanks,

John :-#)#
--
(Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
John's Jukes Ltd.
#7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
(604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."
Daina Pettit
2022-11-02 05:27:48 UTC
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Post by John Robertson
Post by Daina Pettit
Post by diana anderson
Post by diana anderson
Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea
founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that even Ed
Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and
can be used
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pinball/916391-pinball-hardware/faqs/23332
"Tom Yager created the rec.games.pinball USENET newsgroup in on 20
November 1990 for the discussion of pinball machines."
If I recall correctly, the FAQ used to be posted monthly.
- Kerry
The FAQ is still posted monthly with a few reminder posts inbetween.
Hi Daina,
I don't see it here on R.G.P. these days - didn't someone used to copy
it here?
Yes. I auto-post it every month on the first. It posted today and on Oct. 1, 2022, and on Sep. 1, 2022, and so on.
--
Daina Pettit=***@xmission.com, voice: (801)277-6296, msg: (801)277-0888
Linux Consulting Salt Lake City, Utah http://www.MrPinball.com
Mr. Pinball Classified--More Pinball Ads than ANYWHERE, and they're FREE!
John Robertson
2022-11-02 06:52:40 UTC
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Post by Daina Pettit
Post by John Robertson
Post by Daina Pettit
Post by diana anderson
Post by diana anderson
Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea
founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that even Ed
Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and
can be used
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pinball/916391-pinball-hardware/faqs/23332
"Tom Yager created the rec.games.pinball USENET newsgroup in on 20
November 1990 for the discussion of pinball machines."
If I recall correctly, the FAQ used to be posted monthly.
- Kerry
The FAQ is still posted monthly with a few reminder posts inbetween.
Hi Daina,
I don't see it here on R.G.P. these days - didn't someone used to copy
it here?
Yes. I auto-post it every month on the first. It posted today and on Oct. 1, 2022, and on Sep. 1, 2022, and so on.
I'm afraid I don't see it here on RGP...I'm on Eternal-September, but
even before when I was on GigaNews I don't recall seeing it for quite a
while...or perhaps it is way up at the top as a thread on the original
FAQ posting...however nothing with FAQ in the subject line.

Thanks,

John :-#)#
--
(Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
John's Jukes Ltd.
#7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
(604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."
Kerry Imming
2022-11-02 13:52:42 UTC
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Post by John Robertson
Post by John Robertson
Post by Daina Pettit
Post by diana anderson
Post by diana anderson
Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea
founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that even Ed
Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and
can be used
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pinball/916391-pinball-hardware/faqs/23332
"Tom Yager created the rec.games.pinball USENET newsgroup in on 20
November 1990 for the discussion of pinball machines."
If I recall correctly, the FAQ used to be posted monthly.
- Kerry
The FAQ is still posted monthly with a few reminder posts inbetween.
Hi Daina,
I don't see it here on R.G.P. these days - didn't someone used to copy
it here?
Yes.  I auto-post it every month on the first.  It posted today and on
Oct. 1, 2022, and on Sep. 1, 2022, and so on.
I'm afraid I don't see it here on RGP...I'm on Eternal-September, but
even before when I was on GigaNews I don't recall seeing it for quite a
while...or perhaps it is way up at the top as a thread on the original
FAQ posting...however nothing with FAQ in the subject line.
Thanks,
John :-#)#
I don't see it either. I'm using eternal-september too, but I checked
on Google Groups and it isn't there either.

- Kerry
Scott Lurndal
2022-11-02 14:25:16 UTC
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Post by Kerry Imming
Post by John Robertson
Post by John Robertson
Post by Daina Pettit
Post by diana anderson
Post by diana anderson
Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea
founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that even Ed
Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and
can be used
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pinball/916391-pinball-hardware/faqs/23332
"Tom Yager created the rec.games.pinball USENET newsgroup in on 20
November 1990 for the discussion of pinball machines."
If I recall correctly, the FAQ used to be posted monthly.
- Kerry
The FAQ is still posted monthly with a few reminder posts inbetween.
Hi Daina,
I don't see it here on R.G.P. these days - didn't someone used to copy
it here?
Yes.  I auto-post it every month on the first.  It posted today and on
Oct. 1, 2022, and on Sep. 1, 2022, and so on.
I'm afraid I don't see it here on RGP...I'm on Eternal-September, but
even before when I was on GigaNews I don't recall seeing it for quite a
while...or perhaps it is way up at the top as a thread on the original
FAQ posting...however nothing with FAQ in the subject line.
Thanks,
John :-#)#
I don't see it either. I'm using eternal-september too, but I checked
on Google Groups and it isn't there either.
I get my NNTP from usenetserver, and I've not seen the FAQ for several years.
Daina Pettit
2022-11-11 04:02:34 UTC
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Post by Scott Lurndal
Post by Kerry Imming
Post by John Robertson
Post by John Robertson
Post by Daina Pettit
Post by diana anderson
Post by diana anderson
Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea
founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that even Ed
Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and
can be used
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pinball/916391-pinball-hardware/faqs/23332
"Tom Yager created the rec.games.pinball USENET newsgroup in on 20
November 1990 for the discussion of pinball machines."
If I recall correctly, the FAQ used to be posted monthly.
- Kerry
The FAQ is still posted monthly with a few reminder posts inbetween.
Hi Daina,
I don't see it here on R.G.P. these days - didn't someone used to copy
it here?
Yes.  I auto-post it every month on the first.  It posted today and on
Oct. 1, 2022, and on Sep. 1, 2022, and so on.
I'm afraid I don't see it here on RGP...I'm on Eternal-September, but
even before when I was on GigaNews I don't recall seeing it for quite a
while...or perhaps it is way up at the top as a thread on the original
FAQ posting...however nothing with FAQ in the subject line.
Thanks,
John :-#)#
I don't see it either. I'm using eternal-september too, but I checked
on Google Groups and it isn't there either.
I get my NNTP from usenetserver, and I've not seen the FAQ for several years.
Strange. I see it on my server. I use trn to readnews. If anyone has any
ideas why some can't see it, that would be helpful.

This is the top few lines of the r.g.p post from Nov. 1, 2022:

Archive-name: RGP_FAQ.RTF
Posting-frequency: Monthly
Last modified: February 2015

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) for Rec.Games.Pinball
< last update by Daina Pettit - ***@xmission.com >

The latest edition of this FAQ can always be retrieved from:

http://www.MrPinball.com/ (Daina Pettit)

Changes:
Added new vendor, Home Leisure Direct.


------------------------------

Subject: 1. Introduction, Intent, and Disclaimer

This is the FAQ for the rec.games.pinball Usenet newsgroup. It
attempts to answer many of the Frequently Asked Questions. It also
provides pointers (both on-line and on paper) for more information
about the world of pinball, and explaining how to buy your own
pinball machine, as well as helpful techniques and parts suppliers...
--
Daina Pettit=***@xmission.com, voice: (801)277-6296, msg: (801)277-0888
Linux Consulting Salt Lake City, Utah http://www.MrPinball.com
Mr. Pinball Classified--More Pinball Ads than ANYWHERE, and they're FREE!
Riles
2022-11-11 12:26:55 UTC
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Post by Scott Lurndal
Post by John Robertson
Post by Daina Pettit
Post by John Robertson
Post by Daina Pettit
Post by diana anderson
Post by diana anderson
Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea
founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that even Ed
Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and
can be used
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pinball/916391-pinball-hardware/faqs/23332
"Tom Yager created the rec.games.pinball USENET newsgroup in on 20
November 1990 for the discussion of pinball machines."
If I recall correctly, the FAQ used to be posted monthly.
- Kerry
The FAQ is still posted monthly with a few reminder posts inbetween.
Hi Daina,
I don't see it here on R.G.P. these days - didn't someone used to copy
it here?
Yes. I auto-post it every month on the first. It posted today and on
Oct. 1, 2022, and on Sep. 1, 2022, and so on.
I'm afraid I don't see it here on RGP...I'm on Eternal-September, but
even before when I was on GigaNews I don't recall seeing it for quite a
while...or perhaps it is way up at the top as a thread on the original
FAQ posting...however nothing with FAQ in the subject line.
Thanks,
John :-#)#
I don't see it either. I'm using eternal-september too, but I checked
on Google Groups and it isn't there either.
I get my NNTP from usenetserver, and I've not seen the FAQ for several years.
Strange. I see it on my server. I use trn to readnews. If anyone has any
ideas why some can't see it, that would be helpful.
Archive-name: RGP_FAQ.RTF
Posting-frequency: Monthly
Last modified: February 2015
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) for Rec.Games.Pinball
http://www.MrPinball.com/ (Daina Pettit)
Added new vendor, Home Leisure Direct.
------------------------------
Subject: 1. Introduction, Intent, and Disclaimer
This is the FAQ for the rec.games.pinball Usenet newsgroup. It
attempts to answer many of the Frequently Asked Questions. It also
provides pointers (both on-line and on paper) for more information
about the world of pinball, and explaining how to buy your own
pinball machine, as well as helpful techniques and parts suppliers...
--
Linux Consulting Salt Lake City, Utah http://www.MrPinball.com
Mr. Pinball Classified--More Pinball Ads than ANYWHERE, and they're FREE!
I didn't see it (Google Groups).
-Riles
John Robertson
2022-11-11 18:03:16 UTC
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Post by Daina Pettit
Post by Scott Lurndal
Post by Kerry Imming
Post by John Robertson
Post by John Robertson
Post by Daina Pettit
Post by diana anderson
Post by diana anderson
Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea
founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that even Ed
Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and
can be used
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pinball/916391-pinball-hardware/faqs/23332
"Tom Yager created the rec.games.pinball USENET newsgroup in on 20
November 1990 for the discussion of pinball machines."
If I recall correctly, the FAQ used to be posted monthly.
- Kerry
The FAQ is still posted monthly with a few reminder posts inbetween.
Hi Daina,
I don't see it here on R.G.P. these days - didn't someone used to copy
it here?
Yes.  I auto-post it every month on the first.  It posted today and on
Oct. 1, 2022, and on Sep. 1, 2022, and so on.
I'm afraid I don't see it here on RGP...I'm on Eternal-September, but
even before when I was on GigaNews I don't recall seeing it for quite a
while...or perhaps it is way up at the top as a thread on the original
FAQ posting...however nothing with FAQ in the subject line.
Thanks,
John :-#)#
I don't see it either. I'm using eternal-september too, but I checked
on Google Groups and it isn't there either.
I get my NNTP from usenetserver, and I've not seen the FAQ for several years.
Strange. I see it on my server. I use trn to readnews. If anyone has any
ideas why some can't see it, that would be helpful.
Archive-name: RGP_FAQ.RTF
Posting-frequency: Monthly
Last modified: February 2015
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) for Rec.Games.Pinball
http://www.MrPinball.com/ (Daina Pettit)
Added new vendor, Home Leisure Direct.
------------------------------
Subject: 1. Introduction, Intent, and Disclaimer
This is the FAQ for the rec.games.pinball Usenet newsgroup. It
attempts to answer many of the Frequently Asked Questions. It also
provides pointers (both on-line and on paper) for more information
about the world of pinball, and explaining how to buy your own
pinball machine, as well as helpful techniques and parts suppliers...
I haven't seen it for a while now, either on Eternal September or GigaNews.

Daina, it isn't getting out to the Usenet servers...I suspect since
perhaps 2016 - looking at a posting from Kerry Imming dated March 18,
2016 titled "rec.games.pinball FAQ"

John :-#(#

--
(Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
John's Jukes Ltd.
#7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
(604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers nev
Mark Bray
2022-11-12 23:10:03 UTC
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Possibly google groups and other readers are auto-filtering what they think are duplicate posts.

Maybe try adding a line to the top with the current date next month to see if it appears 'different' enough not to be filtered out.
Scott Lurndal
2022-11-13 19:20:17 UTC
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Post by Mark Bray
Possibly google groups and other readers are auto-filtering what they think are duplicate posts.
That's definitely not the case with my NNTP client, which
doesn't filter posts at all without explicit configuration
(and dates back to the 1980s).
John Robertson
2022-11-13 23:27:37 UTC
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Post by Scott Lurndal
Post by Mark Bray
Possibly google groups and other readers are auto-filtering what they think are duplicate posts.
That's definitely not the case with my NNTP client, which
doesn't filter posts at all without explicit configuration
(and dates back to the 1980s).
Scott, are you seeing the monthly FAQ then?

Thanks,

John :-#)#
--
(Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
John's Jukes Ltd.
#7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
(604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."
Scott Lurndal
2022-11-14 15:41:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Robertson
Post by Scott Lurndal
Post by Mark Bray
Possibly google groups and other readers are auto-filtering what they think are duplicate posts.
That's definitely not the case with my NNTP client, which
doesn't filter posts at all without explicit configuration
(and dates back to the 1980s).
Scott, are you seeing the monthly FAQ then?
No, I have not seen it for a very long time.
Dave
2022-11-02 18:54:12 UTC
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Post by diana anderson
Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that even Ed Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and can be used
I was certainly accessing this group in 1998. This is when I purchased my Williams Indiana Jones and knew NOTHING about maintaining a pinball machine so was a great source of info and help. These days I find YouTube a fantastic source of info and "how to" guides and have learned so much just watching a lot of these guys fixing and trouble shooting various issues. BTW, back in '98 I picked up the IJ for $1,000 Australian dollars. What a bargain! I did hear a few years later from another source that the guy who sold it to me was kicking himself for letting it go. At the time he was more into older style EM machines. I still have the IJ and it is in tip top condition - cabinet faded sure and some tiny wear spots around some of the mode inserts - but overall, fantastic condition.
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